Talk:Book:Soul Music/Annotations

Ace reworking of the main page! I'm all in favour. --AgProv 18:26, 18 September 2011 (CEST)

Wow! Flash service. --Old Dickens 16:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The Dean as Marlon Brando: Born to eat big dinners Also evocative, if his persona in Reaper Man is anything to go by, of Brando's character in Apocalypse Now - "I do love the smell of napalm in the mornings".

Good point on Steppenwolf's eponymous BTBW, btw - "eponymous" as this is the song that gave the world the phrase "heavy metal (thunder)" to describe a certain form of music! --AgProv 14:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

That wasn't Brando's character, but Robert Duvall's. As a side issue, the origin of "heavy metal", and its subsequent application to a genre of rock, is a twisted skein; suffice it to say that in Steppenwolf's song the reference is to the roar of massed Harleys. Solicitr 13:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Isn't there a line in the early part of Soul Music about Buddy "Waiting for a while at the crossroads, but nobody turned up"? Listening to Radcliffe and Maconie's national show on BBC radio last night (07/04/09)and food for thought was provided by their discussing the idea that Robert Johnson sold his soul to the Devil at the eponymous Crossroads, in exchange for superhuman guitar skills and consequent fame and fortune. It was noted that Johnson (while showing promise as a blues songwriter) just simply couldn't string together much more than a few faltering chords on a guitar, and showed no signs of getting any better than this. Then all of a sudden his skills exploded into fruition, as if steered by some external agency. It was also noted that Johnson died young, age twenty-seven, as if some sort of "year-and-a-day" Faustian pact had expired. This led on to a tally of all those other musicians who suddenly died age twenty-seven, as if this was some sort of critical year, a good vintage for dead rock stars.... Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Buddy Holly... strange but true.

(We can only wish Buddy had lasted that long. He was 22.) --Old Dickens 22:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC))

Ah. Amend previous remark to Strange but truth as seen by a BBC radio presenter whose researcher possibly needs a talking-to--AgProv 09:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Saturday 23rd June 2011: 3:54pm. Singer Amy Winehouse is found dead in her London flat. Aged 27....--AgProv 20:30, 23 July 2011 (CEST)

Ye gods! Keith Richards needs a warning label: Professional Stoner. Don't try this at home! --Old Dickens 21:02, 23 July 2011 (CEST)

On a non-related note, it occurs to me that Glod the dwarf, who is seen to sweat a lot and conscientiously avoid baths of any kind (Bob Geldof?) has another layer of meaning to his name. In parts of the Welsh borders and especially Flintshire, this is one of the very few Welsh words to have made it the opposite direction and is regularly used in local English. Sglod, (s)glod, Glodion, Glods are words used to denote potato chips, ie French Fries, as bought in the local chippie such as the one in the alley in Quirm, where the QAYL girls regularly go out of bounds for the taste of fried food. And the girls think the chip fat is too old and dirty and greasy...--AgProv 10:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Since Gorillaz didn't appear until four years after Soul Music was published, this seems an unlikely source. --Old Dickens 13:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Crash/Slash/the Clash: interesting point, but isn't there a guitarist in Guns and Roses or Bon Jovi 9can't recall which) called Slash? --AgProv 11:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Crash/Slash/the Clash: Could as you state refer to the lead guitarist from Guns and Roses --BOZZ 14:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Right after the first encounter between Buddy, Glod and Lias, they go to Gimlet's delicatessen: The place was almost empty. A dwarf in an apron that came up to its armpits watched them over the top of the counter. 'You do fried rat?' said Glod. 'Best damn fried rat in the city,' said Gimlet. 'OK. Give me four fried rats.' 'And some dwarf bread,' said Imp. 'And some coke,' said Lias patiently. 'You mean rat heads or rat legs?' 'No. Four fried rats.' 'And some coke.' 'You want ketchup on those rats?' 'No.' 'You sure?' ‘No ketchup.' 'And some coke.'

Now let's see this scene of blues brothers...

Jake: Do you have any fried chicken ma'am? Mrs. Murphy: Best damned chicken in the state. Jake: Bring me four fried chickens and a Coke. Mrs. Murphy: You want chicken wings or chicken legs? Jake: Four fried chickens and a Coke. Elwood: And some dry white toast please. Mrs. Murphy: Ya'all want anything to drink with that? Elwood: No ma'am. Jake: A Coke. Mrs. Murphy: Be right back.

"Guild of musicians..."

The most recent annotation could hardly be more wrong. The Guild of Musicians equals the musicians' union (A.F. of M.), focused more on collecting dues and making sure nobody else plays any. The industry is represented by CMOT Dibbler. As one who was there, I recall that the industry in the late sixties was seriously worried by musicians taking control themselves and threatening the power and profits of the "suits". Think Apple Corps and all the production that fled to the Mediterranean and the Caribbean. The industry reacted pretty swiftly, creating mechanical Disco and talent-free Punk (and "New Wave".) They soon had the world buying packaged pop from packaged celebrities again. Lately they're reaping the reward as people find they might as well get computer-generated "music" through their computers for free. --Old Dickens 14:47, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

"talent-free Punk (and "New Wave")? Oh, dear.--Solicitr 13:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, there's projectile vomiting and the Bad Attitude competition, but I meant musical...--Old Dickens 00:38, 14 July 2011 (CEST)

Another possible band name parody: Right before the festival the band that keeps changing names briefly consider "We're A Rubbish Band", which I've always thought is an allusion to the band Garbage. --Peaches 21:53, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

There's also a 10CC lyric:

It's one thing to know it,

It's another to admit -

We're the worst band in the world,

And we don't give a..... --AgProv 15:37, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I realize that this is for the BOOK, but I noticed, in the animated version, when the dean takes out a guitar and starts playing a series of chords over and over, it's the main guitar line from All Apologies by Nirvana.

American Pie

Hee-hee..."in a coat he borrowed from the Dean". I'd like to believe that one, at least. Odd casting for the Jester, though. --Old Dickens 00:30, 14 July 2011 (CEST)

Is Adrian a walking reference?

Just wondered, with quite a few references to James Dean in the book, is the name Turnipseed really just a name? After all, the driver of the other car involved in James Dean's death was named Turnupseed...--LilMaibe 14:42, 10 August 2011 (CEST)

Question for User:AgProv

The item on Eulalie Butts refers to Iron Ronnie. In what edition is she mentioned? See discussion of Iron Lily/Ronnie in QCYL page.