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:I don't know how clear that is when they're both female and other characters are similarly transformed. Presumably they fill similar roles, but changing sex would make them and others fairly original. I'd have to see the finished product (but I'm not keen on modernised Shakespeare, either). --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 17:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC) | :I don't know how clear that is when they're both female and other characters are similarly transformed. Presumably they fill similar roles, but changing sex would make them and others fairly original. I'd have to see the finished product (but I'm not keen on modernised Shakespeare, either). --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 17:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
::The name and descriptions currently available pretty clearly links them to the existing characters, though? Throat is directly said to be "based on Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler" in the release, so that's unambiguous, while Wonse is described as "re-imagined", which indicates a character at least drawing inspiration from the existing one. I think it'd be better not to create separate articles but to have an "In Other Media" section for the originals detailing their differences, much as you find on Wikipedia. -- [[User:Guybrush|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush|talk]]) 03:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC) | ::The name and descriptions currently available pretty clearly links them to the existing characters, though? Throat is directly said to be "based on Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler" in the release, so that's unambiguous, while Wonse is described as "re-imagined", which indicates a character at least drawing inspiration from the existing one. I think it'd be better not to create separate articles but to have an "In Other Media" section for the originals detailing their differences, much as you find on Wikipedia. -- [[User:Guybrush|Guybrush]] ([[User talk:Guybrush|talk]]) 03:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::Yes this should be edited, I jumped the gun calling these characters original because they are so far removed from the book characters e.g. [https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/19/doctor-who-star-ingrid-oliver-cast-in-terry-pratchetts-bbc-adaptation-of-the-watch-11183230/ 'While Ruth Madeley will star as the wiry Throat, the city’s best snitch, with a gang of freelance henchmen at her beck and call.']. However it has been stated that they are based on the book characters 'The character of Throat was male in the original books so for the team to cast me was extra exciting. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Throat develops and what mischief she can bring.' So given the information presented so far 'in name only' or 'inspired by' would be better descriptions (and even then that would only partially apply to Throat) but this is subject to revision when the series comes out. So I'll remove the original characters line. [[User:Jagra|Jagra]] ([[User talk:Jagra|talk]]) 14:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Opinions from Rhianna Pratchett and Neil Gaiman seem to confirm my fears: [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/12/bbc-the-watch-shares-no-dna-with-terry-pratchett-work-daughter-rhianna from The Guardian.] --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 16:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
:[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/apr/28/terry-pratchett-novels-faithful-tv-adaptation-discworld hmmm] --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 02:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 02:52, 9 February 2021
Suggested: The page currently says that Wonse and Throat are original characters. I think it's fairly clear that Throat will be Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler, and Wonse will be Lupine Wonse from Guards! Guards!.
- I don't know how clear that is when they're both female and other characters are similarly transformed. Presumably they fill similar roles, but changing sex would make them and others fairly original. I'd have to see the finished product (but I'm not keen on modernised Shakespeare, either). --Old Dickens (talk) 17:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- The name and descriptions currently available pretty clearly links them to the existing characters, though? Throat is directly said to be "based on Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler" in the release, so that's unambiguous, while Wonse is described as "re-imagined", which indicates a character at least drawing inspiration from the existing one. I think it'd be better not to create separate articles but to have an "In Other Media" section for the originals detailing their differences, much as you find on Wikipedia. -- Guybrush (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yes this should be edited, I jumped the gun calling these characters original because they are so far removed from the book characters e.g. 'While Ruth Madeley will star as the wiry Throat, the city’s best snitch, with a gang of freelance henchmen at her beck and call.'. However it has been stated that they are based on the book characters 'The character of Throat was male in the original books so for the team to cast me was extra exciting. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Throat develops and what mischief she can bring.' So given the information presented so far 'in name only' or 'inspired by' would be better descriptions (and even then that would only partially apply to Throat) but this is subject to revision when the series comes out. So I'll remove the original characters line. Jagra (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- The name and descriptions currently available pretty clearly links them to the existing characters, though? Throat is directly said to be "based on Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler" in the release, so that's unambiguous, while Wonse is described as "re-imagined", which indicates a character at least drawing inspiration from the existing one. I think it'd be better not to create separate articles but to have an "In Other Media" section for the originals detailing their differences, much as you find on Wikipedia. -- Guybrush (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Opinions from Rhianna Pratchett and Neil Gaiman seem to confirm my fears: from The Guardian. --Old Dickens (talk) 16:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- hmmm --Old Dickens (talk) 02:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)