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The illustration is remarkably unlike the canonical or article description of the Cunning Man. Should it be retained? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:38, 12 December 2012 (PST)
The illustration is remarkably unlike the canonical or article description of the Cunning Man. Should it be retained? --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:39, 12 December 2012 (PST)
 
Illustration is a bit of a weak point on this Wiki. We've got some sterling stuff from Kit and Matt Smith, and a lot more which is, perhaps, less good. (Kit's interpretation of Angua cannot be bettered). This has even been said outright on tvtropes - "great Wiki, but why are the pictures so bad?" I posted a defence, saying we're primarily a text-based wiki and if a very good illustrator comes along, they tend to gravitate to a visually based site like deviantArt - it's in the nature of the thing. We have great writers but are weak on picture content. DeviantArt has some genius, superlative, Discworld visuals. (Hoping to persuade a couple of artists to allow their work to be posted here - I had some limited success with this a few years ago.)
 
I agree aboujt the Cunning Man, though - it's a nice picture in every respect except accuracy. Regretfully - it's gotta go. [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 09:20, 13 December 2012 (PST)
 
I was wondering if it might be worth noting here that Captain Carrot seems to be immune to the Cunning Man's influence? He's the one that snaps everyone out of it when the Cunning Man appears outside the King's Head in Ankh Morpork, the whole Carrot's Divine kingly powers thing?? (unsigned comment by [[User: Jarona| Jarona]] 17:38, 1 August 2014‎)
:Not just Carrot, I don't think. The thoughtful and sensible leading characters in general, and certainly Witches, won't be susceptible. The Cunning Man, like so many politicians and "religious" leaders, preys on the suggestible and foolish; there are plenty of these to cause trouble. Of course Carrot has the talent or charisma to snap the mob out of it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== Removal of annotation ==
 
I removed the annotation, because it is needlessly divisive and one sided.  As an alternative, perhaps we could add line such as "or a Chris Matthews rant" (unsigned comment by [[User:Daeguy|Daeguy]] 27 August 2015.)
:Does that mean you represent Fox News rather than Westboro Baptist Church? If you could find something from Chris Matthews (he's so notorious that I had to look him up) to compare to Beck/Hannity/O'Reilly you could add him to the list but we don't delete things just because they don't represent our personal political or financial interests. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 15:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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The illustration is remarkably unlike the canonical or article description of the Cunning Man. Should it be retained? --Old Dickens (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2012 (PST)

Illustration is a bit of a weak point on this Wiki. We've got some sterling stuff from Kit and Matt Smith, and a lot more which is, perhaps, less good. (Kit's interpretation of Angua cannot be bettered). This has even been said outright on tvtropes - "great Wiki, but why are the pictures so bad?" I posted a defence, saying we're primarily a text-based wiki and if a very good illustrator comes along, they tend to gravitate to a visually based site like deviantArt - it's in the nature of the thing. We have great writers but are weak on picture content. DeviantArt has some genius, superlative, Discworld visuals. (Hoping to persuade a couple of artists to allow their work to be posted here - I had some limited success with this a few years ago.)

I agree aboujt the Cunning Man, though - it's a nice picture in every respect except accuracy. Regretfully - it's gotta go. AgProv (talk) 09:20, 13 December 2012 (PST)

I was wondering if it might be worth noting here that Captain Carrot seems to be immune to the Cunning Man's influence? He's the one that snaps everyone out of it when the Cunning Man appears outside the King's Head in Ankh Morpork, the whole Carrot's Divine kingly powers thing?? (unsigned comment by Jarona 17:38, 1 August 2014‎)

Not just Carrot, I don't think. The thoughtful and sensible leading characters in general, and certainly Witches, won't be susceptible. The Cunning Man, like so many politicians and "religious" leaders, preys on the suggestible and foolish; there are plenty of these to cause trouble. Of course Carrot has the talent or charisma to snap the mob out of it. --Old Dickens (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Removal of annotation

I removed the annotation, because it is needlessly divisive and one sided. As an alternative, perhaps we could add line such as "or a Chris Matthews rant" (unsigned comment by Daeguy 27 August 2015.)

Does that mean you represent Fox News rather than Westboro Baptist Church? If you could find something from Chris Matthews (he's so notorious that I had to look him up) to compare to Beck/Hannity/O'Reilly you could add him to the list but we don't delete things just because they don't represent our personal political or financial interests. --Old Dickens (talk) 15:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)