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Pyramids(?)

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	== Pyramids(?) ==		== Pyramids(?) ==

	The events of {{P}} do not show up anywhere in the timeline. This is important, especially as regards [[Mericet]]. Teatime mentioned that he had Mericet as a teacher, so knowing the time of ''Pyramids'' would be very useful in determining the old goat's age.		The events of {{P}} do not show up anywhere in the timeline. This is important, especially as regards [[Mericet]]. Teatime mentioned that he had Mericet as a teacher, so knowing the time of ''Pyramids'' would be very useful in determining the old goat's age.

			: It takes place in the [[Century of the Cobra]], although some people in the book think it's the [[Century of the Fruitbat]], which suggests to me that ''Pyramids'' might be some time after the Fruitbat? Time works strangely in [[Djelibeybi]] though... [[User:Danochy\|Danochy]] ([[User talk:Danochy\|talk]]) 04:46, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

	== Sourcery ==		== Sourcery ==

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	:For some reason, any reply I enter is rejected by the spam filter. I can't guess what's triggering it. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 00:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)		:For some reason, any reply I enter is rejected by the spam filter. I can't guess what's triggering it. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 00:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
	:Trying again, I'd say Esmerelda was only about ten, but the timeline goes all over after {{T!}}. She's a year to two older than Young Sam, so near eight for {{SN}}. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)		:Trying again, I'd say Esmerelda was only about ten, but the timeline goes all over after {{T!}}. She's a year to two older than Young Sam, so near eight for {{SN}}. --[[User:Old Dickens\|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens\|talk]]) 01:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

	~~== a thought. ==~~

	~~Looking at the order i've placed novels in it seems that the timeline does in fact follow release date order.~~

	~~- WiktorReads~~

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 :For some reason, any reply I enter is rejected by the spam filter. I can't guess what's triggering it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 :Trying again, I'd say Esmerelda was only about ten, but the timeline goes all over after {{T!}}. She's a year to two older than Young Sam, so near eight for {{SN}}.  --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 == a thought. ==

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 :For some reason, any reply I enter is rejected by the spam filter. I can't guess what's triggering it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 00:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 :Trying again, I'd say Esmerelda was only about ten, but the timeline goes all over after {{T!}}. She's a year to two older than Young Sam, so near eight for {{SN}}.  --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:01, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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	Ok so where do we go from here?		Ok so where do we go from here?

	~~-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-30~~

	~~== So where do we place the [[Moist von Lipwig]] series here? ==~~

	~~'''{{GP}} Takes place 3 almost 4 years from the invention of the first clacks company which takes place some-time very close to {{T5E}}'''~~

	{{GP}}: ''"He hadn’t seen a clacks until three years ago, when the first company was founded... ...Sane Alex and Mad Al were old men in the clacks business; they’d been in it for almost four years."''
	{{T5E}}: ''"The new guild must be coining money. Even from here he could see the scaffolding, as workers feverishly attached still more gantries and paddles to the main tower." "It had all happened so fast. Who’d have believed it?" "And it had caught on as fast as every other craze did in the big city."''

	~~'''{{GP}} also have to take place some time before {{T!}} as [[Moist von Lipwig]]s stamp invention is mentioned.'''~~

	{{T!}}: ''Remember the cabbage-scented stamp last month?... ...Oh yes, two stamps. They were very nearly identical. They both showed Koom Valley, a rocky area ringed by mountains. They both showed the battle. But in one, little figures of trolls were pursuing dwarfs from right to left, and in the other, dwarfs were chasing trolls from left to right''

	'''So {{GP}} cannot be placed later than 14 months after {{NW}} Where can we place it? Well lets go back. {{T5E}} has to take place 1~9 months before {{NW}} and {{J}} takes place "a few months" before {{T5E}} Assuming that the maximum amount "a few months" could be is 12 as 13 is a whole year. the maximum amount of time {{J}} could take place before {{NW}} is 21 months. so we got 21+14=35 months to play with. 3 years is 39 months which is already breaking the limit.. So the only reasonable suggestion is that The first company is founded and starts production some time before {{J}} but it starts up placing towers in {{J}} and we know it's still in an early phase of expanding in {{T5E}} for instance Bonk has only had a tower for 1 month'''

	~~{{T5E}}: ''The clacks tower had only been up for a month, and was being roundly denounced throughout Bonk as an intrusion.''~~

	~~'''{{MM}} Is definitely just 1 year later than {{GP}}'''~~

	~~''"the Post Office burned down last year"~~
	~~"A year ago he’d asked Adora Belle Dearheart to be his wife"~~
	~~"Pray to the gods to get a big heap of gold? When had that ever worked? Well, last year it worked, true, but that was because I already knew where a big heap of gold was buried."''~~

	~~'''Now comes the feared dating of the timeline. {{MM}} states clearly that it's sometime recently during or after 1998.'''~~

	~~''"We have been badly buffeted in recent years. The crash of 88, the crash of 93, the crash of 98…"''~~

	'''This means that {{GP}} cannot be earlier than 1997. And since {{GP}} has to be sometime before {{T!}} we know that {{T!}} can't be earlier than 1997 either. Which would mean that [[Where's My Cow?]] can't be earlier than 1997 {{NW}} and {{TOT}} can't be earlier than 1996 {{T5E}} and {{TT}} can't be earlier than 1995 and {{J}} can't be earlier than 1994 This means that the [[Discworld timeline]] has the latter novels completely wrong. to add to this {{SN}} can't be earlier than 2002 and {{RS}} can't be earlier than 2004'''

	'''The [[Glorious Revolution]] took place more'n 30 years ago in {{T!}} which means that it's very unlikely to take place earlier than 1959 as that is 39 years before {{T!}} at earliest. and they would probably say more'n 40 or 40 years ago if that was the case.'''

	~~{{T!}}: ''Barricades, sir, Colon prompted. “More’n thirty years ago?” Vimes gave a curt nod. Oh yes, he remembered the Glorious Revolution''~~

	'''It is also clearly stated in {{MAA}} that the [[Glorious Revolution]] happened 25 years ago as that was when Vimes joined the force in {{NW}} this would put the [[Glorious Revolution]] 25 years before {{MAA}} in 1986 which would be 1961.'''

	~~{{MAA}}: ''Vimes said, I’m retiring from the Watch tomorrow. Twenty-five years on the streets—''~~


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	~~== Adding more novels to the timeline ==~~

	~~'''{{SM}} takes place in 1986 or 1987 and We know the age of [[Mustrum Ridcully]] in {{SM}}'''~~

	{{SM}}: ''The Dean: He sighed. He was seventytwo... ...Dean: Your trouble, Archchancellor, is that you don’t understand people of our age!” “What…you mean seven months older than me?” said Ridcully.''

	'''[[Mustrum Ridcully]] is newly appointed Archchancellor in {{MP}} at 67 years old. Since he's 72 in {{SM}} in either 1986 or 1987 it means that {{MP}} has to take place some time in 1981, 1982 or 1983'''

	~~{{MP}}: ''the desk of Mustrum Ridcully, the new Archchancellor of Unseen University''~~
	{{MP}}: ''And yet, at the time, it had seemed a really good idea to elect an Archchancellor who hadn’t set foot in the University in forty years. There had been so much in-fighting between the various orders of wizardry in recent years that, just for once, the senior wizards had agreed that what the University needed was a period of stability, so that they could get on with their scheming and intriguing in peace and quiet for a few months. A search of the records turned up Ridcully the Brown who, after becoming a Seventh Level mage at the incredibly young age of twenty-seven, had quit the University in order to look after his family’s estates deep in the country.''

	~~'''We can now also accurately place {{RM}} in either 1981, 82 or 83 as it takes place in the same year as {{MP}}'''~~

	~~{{MP}}: ''"Windle Poons, who was one hundred and thirty years old"''~~
	~~{{RM}}: ''"He was one hundred and thirty"'' (on windle poons age)~~

	~~==== {{SG}} Is a tricky one. I believe that it takes place both 100 years in the past and some time short after {{RM}} ====~~

	~~'''[[Death of Rats]] is created during the events of {{RM}}'''~~

	{{RM}}: ''ARE YOU THE ONLY ONE LEFT? The Death of Rats opened a tiny skeletal hand. The tiny Death of Fleas stood up, looking embarrassed but hopeful. NO. THIS SHALL NOT BE. I AM IMPLACABLE. I AM DEATH…ALONE. He looked at the Death of Rats. He remembered Azrael in his tower of loneliness. ALONE… The Death of Rats looked back at him. SQUEAK? Picture a tall, dark figure, surrounded by cornfields… NO, YOU CAN’T RIDE A CAT. WHO EVER HEARD OF THE DEATH OF RATS RIDING A CAT? THE DEATH OF RATS WOULD RIDE SOME KIND OF DOG.''

	~~'''And has a cameo in {{SG}}'''~~

	~~{{SG}}: ''He looked down further. In front of the crew the ship’s rats had assembled. There was a tiny robed shape in front of them. It said, SQUEAK. He thought: even rats have a Death…''~~

	'''This makes it seem as if {{SG}} takes place some time after {{RM}} however [[Death]] & the [[Death of Rats]] are both exempt from time and space, meaning that the cameo in {{SG}} could take place 100 years before the creating of the [[Death of Rats]]'''

	~~'''It is also stated in {{TOT}} which we know cannot take place earlier than 1996 that events of {{SG}} took place some time 100 years ago.'''~~

	{{TOT}}Death: ''THE BOOK OF TOBRUN HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED OFFICIAL CHURCH DOGMA FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. THE PROPHET BRUTHA REVEALED THAT THE WHOLE CHAPTER WAS A METAPHOR FOR A POWER STRUGGLE WITHIN THE EARLY CHURCH. IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REVISED VERSION OF THE BOOK OF OM, AS DETERMINED BY THE CONVOCATION OF EE.''

	~~'''However the Year is the same in both {{RM}} and {{SG}}'''~~

	~~{{RM}}: ''Windle poons-born in the year of the Significant Triangle... ... died in the year of the Notional Serpent in the Century of the Fruitbat''~~
	~~{{SG}}: ''It was the Year of the Notional Serpent, or two hundred years after the Declaration of the Prophet Abbys.''~~

	~~'''However the philosophers from {{P}} appear in {{SG}}. Teatime in {{H}} and Teppic in {{P}} have the same Teacher. and [[Dr Cruces]] appear in {{P}} as well as {{MAA}} which we know is in 1986.'''~~

	~~'''This is all cleared up with {{TOT}} detailing that the storyline of {{SG}} probably takes place in 2 centuries at the same time.'''~~

	{{TOT}}: ''The history of the country of Ephebe was puzzling, for example. Either its famous philosophers lived for a very long time, or inherited their names, or extra bits had been stitched into history there. The history of Omnia was a mess. Two centuries had been folded into one, by the look of it, and it was only because of the mind-set of the Omnians, whose religion mixed the past and future with the present in any case, that it could possibly have passed unnoticed.''

	'''If we take this into account it all makes sense. {{RM}} and {{SG}} are in the same Year of the Century. {{RM}} Takes place sometime 1981, 82 or 83 which means that {{SG}} probably takes place sometime in both 1981, 82 or 83 and 1881, 82 or 83. Since {{SG}} takes place in the 1980's it fits with the philosophers the teacher and cruces. And since {{SG}} takes place in the 1880's the 100 years ago quote from [[Death]] makes sense. That {{SG}} has a cameo of the [[Death of Rats]] also makes sense if we put {{SG}} sometime after {{RM}} but the same year.'''


	~~-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-31~~

	== a thought. ==		== a thought. ==

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	'''If we take this into account it all makes sense. {{RM}} and {{SG}} are in the same Year of the Century. {{RM}} Takes place sometime 1981, 82 or 83 which means that {{SG}} probably takes place sometime in both 1981, 82 or 83 and 1881, 82 or 83. Since {{SG}} takes place in the 1980's it fits with the philosophers the teacher and cruces. And since {{SG}} takes place in the 1880's the 100 years ago quote from [[Death]] makes sense. That {{SG}} has a cameo of the [[Death of Rats]] also makes sense if we put {{SG}} sometime after {{RM}} but the same year.'''		'''If we take this into account it all makes sense. {{RM}} and {{SG}} are in the same Year of the Century. {{RM}} Takes place sometime 1981, 82 or 83 which means that {{SG}} probably takes place sometime in both 1981, 82 or 83 and 1881, 82 or 83. Since {{SG}} takes place in the 1980's it fits with the philosophers the teacher and cruces. And since {{SG}} takes place in the 1880's the 100 years ago quote from [[Death]] makes sense. That {{SG}} has a cameo of the [[Death of Rats]] also makes sense if we put {{SG}} sometime after {{RM}} but the same year.'''


	~~-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-31~~

	~~== Taking everything into consideration. ==~~

	~~Now some people will object that i need to take into account the 10 year anniversary in {{M}} as well.~~

	~~So now i'm going to take all markers into account to lay out a timeline.~~

	*[[The Battle of Ankh-Morpork]] is 1688
	*[[Havelock Vetinari]] Graduates from the Guild of Assassins in 1968
	*[[Havelock Vetinari]] Celebrates his 10 year anniversary as a patrician in {{M}}
	*[[Mustrum Ridcully]] is 72 in {{SM}} and 67 in {{MP}}
	*The [[Glorious Revolution]] is 25 years before {{MAA}}
	*The bank crash of 88, 93 and 98 happened as detailed in {{MM}}
	*That Vetinari is patrician in all books

	~~And probably that The Century of the Anchovy takes place after the changing of the century, 2000.~~

	'''The current Discworld timeline breaks almost all these rules several times.''' It doesn't account for the bank crash, Mustrums age in SM, the GA taking place 25 years before MAA quote, That the patrician was vetinari in all books, and for some reason carpe jugulum and the fifth elephant is in the century of the anchovy on the timeline despite them both stating in their novels that they are in the century of the fruitbat.

	~~So here's my take if you want to really fit all the points above.~~

	* 1961 - [[Glorious Revolution]] - Source: quote in {{MAA}}
	* 1985 - {{G!G!}} - Source: quote in {{FOC}} + Theatre of Cruelty
	* 1986 or 1987 - {{SM}} - Source: Detritus rank between {{FOC}} & {{MAA}}
	* 1986 - {{MAA}} - Source: quote in {{FOC}}
	* 1987 - {{FOC}} - Because of [[The Battle of Ankh-Morpork]] we know that {{FOC}} Takes place at this year.

	~~From this point we know 2 things.~~

	~~1. {{SM}} Needs to be 16 years after {{M}} as Susan is 16 in {{SM}}~~

	~~2. Vetinari needs to be patrician for 10 years before {{M}} for his celebration.~~

	~~This fits in the timeline, although it leaves very little wriggleroom. we know that {{SM}} Takes place in either 1986 or 87 and has to take place in 1987 to make this fit.~~

	* 1961 - [[Glorious Revolution]]
	* 1971 - {{TCOM}} + {{TLF}} + {{M}}
	* 1987 - {{SM}}

	~~1961 holds the [[Glorious Revolution]] Snapcase has a short reign and is soon after replaced by Vetinari who gets his post-grad diploma in 1968, something the Guild of Assassins is known to do.~~

	~~{{MAA}}: ''That afternoon he (Edward) sold what remained of the d’Eath estates, and enrolled again at the Guild school. For the post-graduate course''~~

	~~10 years later we see the events of {{TCOM}} + {{TLF}} and then {{M}} Susan is born shortly after {{M}} during the same year and is 16 by the time of {{SM}} in 1987.~~

	~~Now we can easily fit in {{MP}} and {{RM}} as they occur 5 years before the events of {{SM}} in 1987.~~

	* 1982 - {{MP}} + {{RM}}

	~~Our current timeline looks like this.~~

	* 1961 - [[Glorious Revolution]]
	* 1971 - {{TCOM}} + {{TLF}} + {{M}}
	* 1982 - {{MP}} + {{RM}}
	* 1985 - {{G!G!}} + Theatre of Cruelty
	* 1987 - {{SM}}
	* 1986 - {{MAA}}
	* 1987 - {{FOC}}

	~~Next up comes linking all those later watch novels and Tiffany Aching novels to the timeline.~~

	We know that {{NW}} cannot be later than 1999 as that is 38 years after 1961 and in {{T!}} they still say "more'n 30 years" which would be odd if it was 40 years ago. We also know that {{NW}} cannot be earlier than 1996 because of the bank crash quote in {{MM}}

	So to puzzle this together neatly I want to draw your attention to The Century of The Anchovy. We know that The Century of the Anchovy split takes place some time between the events of {{T5E}} and {{T!}} as Going Postal which is before {{T!}} says it is the year of the anchovy while {{T5E}} says it's the year of the fruitbat. The area between these is a span of 15 to 21 months. very short.

	My take is that since {{NW}} cannot be later than 1999 and The Century of the fruitbat Switch having to take place some time in the next 14 months. we have to put {{NW}} at 1999. this would put {{GP}} + {{T!}} and any later books in the Century of the Anchovy which fits with what we're told in the novels.

	~~We can also slot in {{SG}} 100 years before {{RM}} as they both occur in the same year but {{SG}} occurs in both centuries.~~

	~~Slotting in the rest of the novels we're left with a timeline that looks something like this.~~

	~~Century of the Three Lice~~

	* 1852 - Windle Poons Birth
	* 1882 - {{SG}}

	~~Century of the Fruitbat~~

	* 1961 - [[Glorious Revolution]]
	* 1971 - {{TCOM}} + {{TLF}} + {{M}}
	* 1982 - {{MP}} + {{RM}}
	* 1985 - {{G!G!}} + Theatre of Cruelty
	* 1986 - {{MAA}}
	* 1987 - {{FOC}} + {{SM}}
	* 1997/8 - {{J}}
	* 1998 - {{T5E}} + {{TT}} + {{WFM}}
	* 1999 - {{TOT}} + {{NW}}

	~~The Century Of the Anchovy~~

	* 2000 - {{GP}} + [[Where's My Cow?]] + {{T!}} + {{HFOS}}
	* 2001 - {{MM}} + {{W}}
	* 2004 - {{ISWM}}
	* 2005 - {{SN}}
	* 2006 - {{RS}} + {{TSC}}

	The rest of the novels i have found no way to accurately tie down to a certain year, Although neither has the original timeline as everything on it except for {{MAA}} + {{G!G!}} + {{FOC}} are complete guesses that almost all break the markers we have for finding out when x novel takes place.

	~~I hope you can help me piece together the last pieces of the puzzle and try and narrow down placements for the other novels.~~

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	{{MAA}}: ''Vimes said, I’m retiring from the Watch tomorrow. Twenty-five years on the streets—''		{{MAA}}: ''Vimes said, I’m retiring from the Watch tomorrow. Twenty-five years on the streets—''


	~~-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-30~~

	~~== Early Watch Novels ==~~

	~~'''{{FOC}} Is 1 year before the 300th anniversary of the battle of ankh-morpork. [[The Discworld Companion]] companion details this very well.'''~~

	{{FOC}}: ''“Thing is, it’s the tricentre—tricera—this three-hundred-year celebration thing next year, Mr. Vimes…”... ...“Well…we’re going to recreate the Battle of Ankh-Morpork for the celebrations... ...“Er…I’m going to be King Lorenzo, sir. Er…you know…the last king, the one your…er…”... ...“And who drew the straw to play Stoneface Vimes?”''
	~~[[The Discworld Companion]]: ''"The last civil war, and execution and revelation of the personal habits of lorenzo the kind in 1688, marked the final end of any kind of monarchy in the city."''~~
	~~[[The Discworld Companion]]: ''The Ankh-Morpork Civil war... ...this would have been 1688.''~~

	~~'''So {{FOC}} is 1987 and we can easily plot out {{G!G!}} in 1985 and {{MAA}} in 1986'''~~

	~~{{FOC}}: ''But he hasn’t touched a drop all year!” said Carrot, giving the recumbent Vimes a shake. “He goes to meetings about it and everything!''~~
	~~{{FOC}}: ''Carrot paused. It said a lot about Captain Carrot that, even after almost two years in Ankh-Morpork''~~

	'''We also know that {{SM}} takes place some time between {{MAA}} and {{FOC}}, Detritus takes place in the watch in {{MAA}}, is a Constable in {{SM}}, and Sergeant in {{FOC}}. This means that {{SM}} has to take place ether 1986 or 1987'''

	'''In {{SM}} 1986 or 1987 [[Susan Sto Helit]] is 16 years old. This means that {{M}} takes place some time 16 years before. But it cannot be before {{TCOM}} & {{TLF}} as {{M}} includes The [[Librarian]] in ape-shape. ''“Oook.”'' and Vetinari didn't graduate before 1968 which means that {{TCOM}} & {{TLF}} cannot be before 1968. This means that {{M}} has to take place some time in either 1969, 1970 or 1971.'''

	~~{{TT}}: ''Lord Vetinari “—who graduated with full honors from the Guild of Assassins in 1968,''~~

	~~'''TP has made it very clear that the patrician is Vetinari in {{TCOM}} & {{TLF}}'''~~

	~~[[The Discworld Companion]]: ''The holder of the office throughout the Discworld Chronicles (apart from some events in night watch) is Havelock, Lord vetinari''~~

	lspace.org/books/apf/the-colour-of-magic: ''Terry Pratchett: "I'm pretty certain that the same Patrician was in all the books. [...] He's clearly lost weight and got more austere. It must be the pressure... ..."I've always thought the Patrician is a party animal. Can you imagine waking up next day and remembering all those witty things you said and did, and then realising that he was listening?"''

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	Ok so where do we go from here?		Ok so where do we go from here?

	~~-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-30~~

	~~== Lets start with an easy plot point. [[Young Sam Vimes]] ==~~

	~~'''[[Young Sam Vimes]] is born in {{NW}}'''~~

	~~''"Sybil was sitting up. He saw, through the mist of exhaustion, that she was holding something wrapped in a shawl. “He’s called Sam, Sam,” she said. “And no argument.”"''~~

	~~'''{{TOT}} Takes place at the same time/before {{NW}} as the same storm occurs in both.'''~~

	{{NW}}:''The lightning struck. Windows blew out and iron gutters melted. Roofs lifted into the air and settled again. Buildings shook. But this storm had been blowing in from far across the plains, pushing the natural background magic ahead of it. It dumped it now, all in one go. They said afterward that the bolt of lightning hit a clockmaker’s shop in the Street of Cunning Artificers, stopping all the clocks at that instant.''

	~~'''{{T5E}} Takes place 1~9 months before {{NW}}[[Sybil Ramkin]] Is pregnant with [[Young Sam Vimes]]'''~~

	~~'''{{TT}} Takes place 1~9 months before {{NW}}. it's after the invention of [[Clacks]] and The [[Ankh-Morpork Times]] doesn't appear before {{NW}}'''~~

	{{TT}}: ''"Dibbler sighed. “I missed out on the semaphore. Just didn’t see it coming. Next thing you know, everyone’s got a clacks company. Big money... ...“And there’s this clacks from Lancre that came in when you’d gone home,” said the dwarf. “That’ll cost us another fifty pence for the messenger.''

	~~'''{{J}} Takes place "a few months" before {{T5E}} as [[Buggy Swires]] Joined the watch "a few months" before {{T5E}} and is in the watch in {{J}}'''~~

	~~''{{J}}: “That’s Probationary Constable Buggy Swires, sir. He likes to get a good view.”~~
	{{T5E}}: Constable Swires had been on the force only for a few months, but news had gone around and already he inspired respect, or at least the bladder-trembling terror that can pass for respect on these occasions''

	~~'''[[Where's My Cow?]] Takes place 13 months after {{NW}} as [[Young Sam Vimes]] is 1 year old and the event is mentioned in {{T!}}'''~~

	~~''[[Where's My Cow?]]: "1 Year from the birth of Young Sam"~~
	~~{{T!}}: "after a trying day, he’d tried the Vimes street version" - Thud! "to read to Young Sam, who was one year old." - Where's My Cow?''~~

	~~'''{{T!}} Takes place 14 months after {{NW}} and {{IT}} as [[Young Sam Vimes]] is 14 Months old'''~~

	~~''"fourteen-month-old baby"''~~

	~~'''{{SN}} Takes place 6 years after {{NW}} and {{IT}} as [[Young Sam Vimes]] is 6 years old'''~~

	~~''"an absolute hoot for a boy just turned six... ...the whole process being a matter of huge entertainment to a boy of six"''~~

	~~'''{{RS}} Takes place 8 years after {{T5E}} which would be about 7~8 years after {{NW}}'''~~

	~~''"The King coughed before saying to Vimes, “I remember Sergeant Littlebottom when we met by the Scone of Stone eight years ago. Oh, yes, I remember her.”"''~~

	-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-30		-[[User:WiktorReads\|WiktorReads]] 2021-03-30