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Talk:Book:The Fifth Elephant/Annotations

2024-09-06T21:14:21Z

Epithymetic: /* Unity and Nancy Mitford */ new section

==Golden balls of chocolate==
I don't have a page number for this comment - if you could add one for me that would be helpful. Commander Vimes is paying his compliments to the werewolfs.
:Corgi pb p. 252 --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Tag|Tag]] ([[User talk:Tag|talk]]) 10:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

== Unity and Nancy Mitford ==

The reference to Unity Mitford is correct. However, the accompanying reference to Nancy Mitford is not. Nancy was a political moderate, not a Communist. There was another Mitford sister (Jessica?) who was the family Communist, but she is not name-dropped in the Fifth Elephant. So the annotation should only reference Unity as an allusion to Unity Mitford, the fascist sympathizer.

Talk:Ardent

2024-09-06T21:02:33Z

Epithymetic:

what niggles here is that Ardent was all but killed at the end of {T!}, with a crushed throat and a long fall into waters that Sam Vimes only survived because of his possession by the Summoning Dark. Maybe Dwarfs are hard to kill, but seeing him resurrected to be a protaganist in {{RS}} was.... surprising... [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 00:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Sam Vimes, at the end of {T!}, says "These are my demands. The grags and what's left of their guards are coming back to Ankh-Morpork with me. That includes Ardent, though I'm told it'll be weeks before he can talk again. They're going before Vetinari."

Talk:Ardent

2024-09-06T21:01:17Z

Epithymetic:

what niggles here is that Ardent was all but killed at the end of {T!}, with a crushed throat and a long fall into waters that Sam Vimes only survived because of his possession by the Summoning Dark. Maybe Dwarfs are hard to kill, but seeing him resurrected to be a protaganist in {{RS}} was.... surprising... [[User:AgProv|AgProv]] ([[User talk:AgProv|talk]]) 00:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Sam Vimes, at the end of {T!}, says "These are my demands. The grags and what's left of their guards are coming back to Ankh-Morpork with me. *That includes Ardent*, though I'm told it'll be weeks before he can talk again. They're going before Vetinari."

Ardent

2024-09-06T20:59:45Z

Epithymetic:

A dwarf who, during {{T!}}, works closely with [[Hamcrusher]] and his fellow deep-downer [[Grag]]s, wearing the typical black leather flap robe-and-hood of a Deep-Down Dwarf. His beard is trimmed somewhat neater than other dwarfs. He acts as Chief Liaison to the world above for the group of Grags who are looking very hard for something under [[Ankh-Morpork]].

He discovers to his dismay that Ankh-Morpork Law goes '''all the way down''' when applied by [[Sam Vimes|Sir Samuel Vimes]] during the events of {{T!}}. He is even more dismayed when [[Bashfull Bashfullsson]] proves that the hand is faster than the axe. Sam Vimes then intends to take Ardent back to Ankh-Morpork for trial. He resurfaces (although as a [[Deep-Downers|Deep-Downer]] he would not use the phrase) in {{RS}} as an advisor in the court of Low-King [[Rhys Rhysson]]. Here, he is ostensibly putting the case for the old ways. However, he is also deeply involved in more militant ways of restoring the Old Order to the world of Dwarfs. When he feels secure enough to do so, he usurps the [[Low King]]ship and provokes a civil war among Dwarfs.

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